Starter grinding on flywheel. Chances are the Bendix is bad on the starter.

Starter grinding on flywheel No cracks. -One shop told me there was excessive runout of the flywheel but this does not make sense as it just started happening a few weeks ago. another problem can be incorrect number of teeth on starter motor which will cause grinding sound and prevent correct meshing of teeth on flywheel Help replacing flywheel, starter grinding Jump to Latest 8. (I added a new starter for manual transmission when I added the NSS relay). The colder it got the worse the noise was. We replaced the starter, but noticed that the flywheel teeth were damaged and the starter still grinds. the teeth on the flywheel and starter are probably just fine, they propably dont even make a starter well enough thats hard enough steel to strip the flywheel. Same old grinding and no starting. dave hoffman Active member. 4 I installed a Ford reman starter about 1 1/2 years back, so I'm pretty sure its my flywheel. I crawled under the jeep and the first thig i noticed was that the lower starter mounting bolt was being held in by just a bolt, some washers and a nut. however check the ground Grinding on flywheel from starter Mitsubishi Mechanic: EricFromCT , ASE Certified Technician replied 3 years ago If the starter is coming apart while driving, the issue, more likely, is that the starter is staying engaged and running on the flywheel then blowing up. Jump to Latest 21 - 40 of 56 Posts. The starter gear is turning while it is trying to engage, so, the faster and stronger the movement, the better chance of 100% engagement. The flywheel is an essential component that connects to the starter motor, helping crank the Hey Hugh. The original flywheel was used. If they are worn or missing, you get screeching . Installed a 2 nd 1/64" shim, same result. My thinking is that if there was a problem with the flywheel the failure to engage and the resulting grinding would have been present at the start. I looked in the Haynes repair manual I purchased, and it was pointing towards the starter/ flywheel area. Look at the photo of the starter bendix. Sometimes people install the ground cable to the frame and that doesn't always work. I didn't realize that the starter plate was different between the awd and fwd cars. the damm thing dosen't want to recoil back in all the way and it's hitting the fylwheel which is grinding the sh*t out of the Re: 4. In rare occasions a weld on the flywheel will break & it's hard to notice. I dropped the tranny and checked the flexplate, its a 168 tooth which is correct for the diagonal starter bolts. Get a 1/8" allen wrench and put it between the starter shaft and flywheel teeth,Flat to flat ,if starter is shimmed right you I’m so lost! My friend dropped off his (99 Chevy van 5. I thought maybe either the starter gear or flywheel were stripped, but looking at the picture in the Clymer manual, it seems like the starter gear is connected to the end of the crankshaft by a chain across two sprockets that wouldn't easily strip. Went through three starters. The starter is a mini, with universal mounting holes. My starter was making an crazy noise. The flywheel is an essential component that connects to the starter motor, helping crank the *SOLVED* Starter grinding on flywheel after transmission swap. This causes the starter gear to not engage properly and grind against the flywheel. so we are trying to get the car started after putting it all together and there is a grinding noise So the grinding noise turned out to have been the ring gear, driven by the starter, slowly sliding around the outside of the flywheel, while the flywheel was stationary. 45 0 Apr 23, 2005 Smyrna, Tennessee. 60 edelbrock intake, towing cam glasspacks-6 mpg 8 on good day- my pride & joy once towed my '85 j-co j-crane 28' 5er 99 F250 7. This is the cable that goes from the battery to the starter and starter relay. 19 likes, 2 comments - mobilemechanic_la_sgv_ie on January 2, 2025: "1977 GMC C15 - Inspection / Diagnosis After having the flywheel replacement by another shop because the starter was grinding down the old flywheel. No missing or damaged teeth. yes I think so. Sometimes, your Jeep Liberty might produce a grinding noise when starting due to a damaged flywheel. Mile_High Discussion starter. Swap it out for a new one or return and try a Starter grinding down flywheel . I haven't even 1997 - 2003 Ford F150 - 1999 starter grinding - Hi I have a? 1999. 1 2 3. But if your engine is a low compression next to stock engine it can live I had it towed home, put in a new starter from autozone, truck started but there was a horrible grinding noise. I had a starter in and had no problems then the starter came apart while driving and ever since ive gone through 3 starters due to it grinding <b>Mechanic's Assistant:</b> What is the i put the starter up, and it makes a grinding noise on the flywheel. Post clutch/flywheel install starter grinding noise; Results 1 to 25 of 25 Thread: Post clutch/flywheel install starter grinding noise. From your video, this appears to be the case. Also, a converter bolt will come loose and fall out and cause the flywheel to wabble like Starter Grinding After Clutch/Flywheel Replacement Post by kimokalihi » Sat Jan 31, 2009 3:11 pm My daily driver is a 98 Chevy Metro and I just replaced the clutch with an Exedy Clutch kit and the Flywheel with a Luk Flywheel. Is it trashed? How fast should I replace it? I replaced the starter about 3 months ago with an advanced auto one. I know my transmission is an 89 BA 10/5. Fordnut101 Discussion starter. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> 1983 - 2012 Ranger & B-Series - 2. When not grinding does it spin and turn the engine flywheel? Does the engine flywheel turn freely? D. the teeth for both have not been "worn" together. The flywheel is an essential component that connects to the starter motor, helping crank the 4. 5. Join Date Dec 02 2009 AZ Member # I've never had a problem with grinding starter like your talking about and I have about 305k on the oem starter. Thread starter Skusssssh; Start date Oct 24, 2005; This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, and others. In the past, I have swapped the nosecone on the starter to remedy the grinding I just replaced my transmission on a Mazda 5 2006 automatic. When ever I put a new flywheel and starter on the engine when it was first put in it would turn the engine just fine and after the engine had run for about 1000 miles it start grinding a bit and the starter had given out since it was a stock starter. Sudden_Hovercraft_56 Could be a bad new starter. these tips will and I mean will get rid of loud g The issue was the starter plate. Flywheel or Flexplate Missing a Tooth. 94 posts · Joined 2002 Add to quote; Only show this user #3 Right away, we noticed the starter motor was grinding. The flywheel is an essential component that connects to the starter motor, helping crank the sounds like the bendix on the starter is failing. That is what kicks out the drive gear to make contact with the flywheel. The gear would extend on the pendix but not engage the flywheel. But then again, diagnosing over the internet is a skill I have not perfected :0 . The flywheel, starter and alignment plate they installed worked for a while but after three months and lest than 1000 miles. this can happen when you have taken a used starter and put it on a different application. The end result was the starter gear and flywheel keep banging into each other until the starter STARTER GRINDING. Any minor cracks in the starter nose are When I crank the ignition, you hear a loud grinding sound, like the gear on the starter is grinding up against the flywheel. Just acting weak and The starter would engage but you could hear a fraction of a second of grinding when they first meshed. Hey been awhile since I've been here but I'd like to join the grinding group, I myself just spent 10hrs replacing my flywheel and starter as per my local dealer suggested to solve this problem, only to have the grinding noise come back that same day, talk about frustrating, and it does not matter if you use o. S4FTW. So my question is, is grinding down the starter mount where it meets the engine the solution to this? I definitely dont want to make it worse. once transmission warmed up, nasty metal grinding sound when the transmission is in park. I've found several threads on it, and it's as annoying as everyone says! A starter is a big electric motor that is designed to spin your engine when you turn the key. Sometimes, your Kia Sedona might produce a grinding noise when starting due to a damaged flywheel. i may have a photo or do a search on 1999 - 2003 7. 2) a few months. Just one of many things it could be. Fast-forward 9-months: We just reinstalled the engine after machining and completely rebuilding it. Top5autorepairs Subscribe The manual starter is used on larger 164 tooth flywheels again regardless of transmission type. flywheel starter Well, after 10 hours the flywheel was changed as it was indeed damaged ,teeth were Shimming a SBC starter motor does not bring the pinion gear closer to, or further away from, the flywheel ring gear. Used flexplate and non-OEM starter the numbers may work at $700. Probably 5sec or so cycles and 15 total times. Exchanged the junk yard one, started grinding. When the previous owner had the starter replaced, it wasn't pushed up toward the block before torquing down the bolts. (The flange that's up against the block plate when the starter is installed on the engine) Take a similar measurement from the block plate to the ring rear. A bench test won’t tell you much because there is no load for the starter and no resistance against the drive when the solenoid pushes it out. Small Block V8 (221, 260, 289, 5. Thread starter dave hoffman; Start date Nov 21, 2024; D. We put on starter after starter after starter, shimmed and shimmed in all combinations we could think of and still had the awful sound. Have you checked for the correct amount of teeth on the flywheel, and the gear on the starter? Sorry if these ? Have been answered in a previous post/thread. The starter has teeth that engage with other teeth on the flywheel or flex plate (depending on your transmission type). I went and got a new starter and replaced it. The starter made a grinding sound like the gear was running against thin tin. It sounds to me like the starter may not be disengaging quick enough its a similar sound to when you try to start a car thats already started. starter grinding Had the same grinding noise when i put on my new reman- starter 4. Flywheels don't just all of a sudden warp. The starter cant move when in use, if it does the grinding appears. Posts 2 Thanks 0 Location Fort Worth, TX Vehicle(s) I have an 85 CJ-7. hot and allowing the bendix to kick in and out while the starter is turning,hence the grinding noise that by the way Hi Dale, you aren't doing anything wrong. This is the same for a large vehicle like a tractor. Sometimes, your Subaru Legacy might produce a grinding noise when starting due to a damaged flywheel. Fast forward a few days and nothing would work. 0/302, 5. Mine did grind recently, but that was because a bolt fell out and the starter was loose from the flywheel. Jump to Latest Sounds like a possible chipped tooth on the flywheel to me. Jump to Latest 3. Then i removed the starter again and saw that there was some fresh metal on the out edge of the starter gear (not the teeth) and there is a burr on the flywheel from where the starter is hitting it. Still the same grinding noise as before. But not sounding like scrooge, its more likely the ring gear making a bad tooth contact every 7-10 startups you might be able to dress the damaged They will. Sometimes, your Honda S2000 might produce a grinding noise when starting due to a damaged flywheel. Tyoung6980 Discussion starter. pulling the plugs get rid of the engines compression so you can turn the motor over easily with a breaker bar or rachet. It sounds like the starter is grinding on flywheel or flywheel on the starter. Most blocks are drilled for both starter noses. Because his flywheel is backwards (presumably) the starter bendix (the gear part that extends and turns) grinds against the face of the incorrectly installed flywheel. out of a 96 dakota V8. (starter/flywheel). If missing your pinion may be traveling too far. Cant mix and match, the nose has to match the flywheel. I measured the starter to flexplate with a 1/8" drill bit and it was like double that. The teeth on the flywheel wear out and when the starter goes to engage, it doesn't quite fully engage into the flywheel teeth and a makes a loud, sharp grinding noise, like you tried to start a running engine. It's not super common to always need starter shims but sometimes they are needed. In this video I explain 4 possible causes why you hear grinding noise when starting the car. I had trouble getting just a solenoid so i replaced the whole starter. i have 3 shims that came with my old starter -- but i had read somewhere that lt1 starters didn't need shims. but ive As it was cranking, I occasionally heard a severe grinding sound. And the grinding noise stays when the truck is on. It will start sometimes but will grind at first 1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks - Starter grinding on flywheel? - I bought a 1987 F350 2wd with the 7. 1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks - Another starter issue, grinding - Hey guys. I would change it ASAP before you mess up your flywheel. The CNC adapter was slightly loose against the starter motor. Even though the starter isn't grinding it still sounds strained when you crank the car. When trying to start the motor, is the starter supposed to engage the flywheel first before it starts in order to start the engine? When you hear the grinding does the Bendix(starter gear) engage the flywheel? On my 70' 115 I replaced Flywheel Grinding I'm having the same problem. Dan955 Discussion starter. Connections are tight, batteries good, starter tight, flywheel is good. Wont Start I had trouble with my starter earlier this year. Jump to Latest 4. 2. Then the grinding began. Everything on it looks good. Frozen or Stuck Starter Motor: In cold weather, moisture or freezing temperatures can lead to the starter motor becoming frozen or stuck. metric. 3L Power Stroke Diesel - Loud grinding noise? Starter & Flywheel - I?m starting to get this loud grinding noise every-time I start the truck. I had fuel, but when i went to check for spark, the starter started grinding. It never grinded or binded again. So I put a new starter in and it started up fine. thanks for the reply. It was a ministarter and it sounded like it was grinding up the flywheel. 2018 toyota corolla se New flywheel, New starter. Starter/flywheel issue. They will do it free of charge. Pulled 1997 - 2003 F150 - Awful starter grinding noiseon occasion - Every once in a while I go to start my truck and when i turn the key the starter turns over and makes a horrendous grinding noiselike when the truck is already running and you try start it. Let me know!! The ECM is a speeduino, the grinding started with the stock ECM and the first starter died before I could get it fired up for the first time with the speeduino. I recently got the ring for the flywheel replaced because my starter was grinding the teeth. So if you put a 157 tooth starter on a larger 164 tooth flywheel, the starter will never engage with the flywheel and if you try to This leads me to believe its not the starter itself. It has the T-19 4 speed manual transmission. Beyond that it is possible that there are other factors such as flywheel mating position changes due to wear on the drivetrain or If the measurements are the same between starters, and the previous starter worked well without grinding or noise, by all means re-install the shims. When you go to start the vehicle. A grinding noise from the starter can indicate a severe problem that requires immediate attention. -I have had the transmission recently rebuilt and the flywheel checked out fine. Flatfender Master; Posts: 1704; Karma: +0/-0; Starter/Flywheel grinding « on: March 28, 2016, 08:20:10 It's a grinding sound that lasts for about a second or less. Sounds like you need to work with your shims. just wrappin up my 440 rebuild on my 73 RR. F. I figured out it was the starter drive gear that still touching the flywheel. Grinding noise. The pinion is engaging the flywheel gear, but the roller clutch in the drive is slipping. Sometimes, it starts just fine. The smaller 153 tooth flywheel starter has the bolts straight across from each other. because it would move the flywheel and actually worked very well for the first three starts or sothen a little grinding noise. that don't always shoot the pinion gear out to engage the flex plate or flywheel. Did you replace the solenoid? Just get grinding sound upon restart attempt. Same result. RRRM8E · Registered. Took the YJ to the garage for them to figure this out. i been having problems with a starter i bought off eBay. D. It still does it and im not sure what it is now. 447 posts · Joined 2003 Add to quote; Only show this user #1 · Jul 18, 2003. I think when the flywheel gears are new and the starter gear is new, the extra velocity generated by a lighter spring helps engagement. Sometimes, you may be wondering why a tractor starter is not engaging flywheel. 7 mercruiser. 8/351W) - Starter grinding noise302 - Have a 302 from 73, starter started making a grinding/worn bearing noise right after it starts. Nov 21, 2024 #3 Just so I'm informed, the starter is grinding as soon as the gear enguages the flywheel , correct. Car is making a noise Inspection: $94. Each time I tried to start after the initial time, the grinding was worse and the starter had to cycle longer, no more than 5 seconds. Like stamp stated pull your starter, if your lucky its worn teeth there. the starter is grinding on the flywheel when engaging. I know that the AWD flywheel is smaller but didn't know the plate made a difference. Tried to search through the archives, looks like it's beat to death but couldn't find exactly what I was looking for. The flywheel is an essential component that connects to the starter motor, helping crank the starter grinding. Chances are the Bendix is bad on the starter. Starter #4 from Advance, 2 days grinding. R. it sounds like it turns the engine for a few turns before grinding. 7l) cause he installed a rebuilt starter and was getting a grinding noise when he try to start it. Now it's doing it again and worse. had grinding when starting did not seem right to me, well first couple days of ownership starter died which looked to be fairly new. Always have to turn the truck off starter is grinding against flywheel. C3 Tech/Performance - Why is Starter grinding when engine is hot - Hi; 1970 454 vette all original, when engine is hot and I shut it off and try to restart her the starter just grinds and makes a terrible noise and doesn't turn the engine over. 87 f250 4wd LB ex cab 460 bored . If I'm on my way home and stop at the store Does the starter actually make grinding noises, or does it just "run away" at high rpm without cranking the engine? If the latter, that is the normal sound of a failing starter drive. this was caused to the new flywheel, having no counterweights on it to stabilize Re: Starter grinding on Flywheel. The shim is for when you use a TT clutch and flywheel inside of a NA manual transmission. There might need to be some kind of washer on the starter shaft to correctly align the engaged starter gear with the flywheel teeth. There isn't much runout on the flywheel. Starter grinding flywheel. Joined Mar 29, 2012 · 6,379 Posts #21 · Jul 22, 2021. You replaced the starter. If not, it will keep engaging the starter to the flywheel causing the grinding. This can prevent the starter gear from engaging and disengaging properly with the flywheel teeth, resulting in a grinding noise when attempting to start the engine of Silverado 1500. 0 Mustang Man Discussion starter. - the starter gear comes out and fits into the flywheel then -loud click - it can't or won't turn the wheel . 3 won\'t start/grinding noise at starter? Good point rescueman. Pulled the starter today, and what i have seen of the flywheel so far, all of the teeth look Grinding is more typical of starts now but a so far inexplicable ‘solution’ for my car is when a grinding start attempt occurs, shifting the auto trans to ‘N’ results in a successful start. Started cranking it, sure enough, the grinding noise was still there. When any of Lately, every few starts I'd get kindof a grinding noise after ignition, which I thought might be starter on flywheel. that I need to 4. 10 posts · Joined 2006 Add to quote; Only show this user #1 · Apr 17, 2007. It developed a grinding issue and over time wrecked both parts. I think I might need a new fly wheel. Starts up perfectly fine in the morning or after sitting for awhile. I made a video so you can listen. Sometimes, your Jeep Wrangler might produce a grinding noise when starting due to a damaged flywheel. I don't think you can get them wrong. Now it will make a grinding noise when i try to start it. The most common problem is that the starter gear has broken and is making noise. I bought it in 2004 still under warranty. Starter/Flywheel Grinding, Car Wont Start, HELP!!! Jump to Latest 21K views 12 replies 7 participants last post by Mr Joshua Jul 21, 2003. F-150. and when the car start, there is an terrific grinding/scratching noise. What causes it to grind is the starter moved and it moved due to the bolts not being tight enough. We took the starter back and tried another. The 168 starter has them diagonal. you need to change the flywheel and starter, or it will grind Look at the teeth on the front of the flywheel. A sure sign of too few shims is a grinding or Pulled the starter and it was time for a new one (It didn't want to fully engage the flywheel). 727 trans in car now, has hedman headers so swapped to mini starter. being amateur, i twisted the middle part out to the point where it wont go back in until i either put it in and start it, or use the bench grinder wire brush trick. I have a tractor with a starter that will occasionally grind and not engage. If undershimmed, you could shap teeth off of the flywheel ring gear. It sounded to me like the starter wasn't fully engaging the flywheel and that maybe the teeth of the starter were on engaging a little bit and slowly getting sheered off. i always go with ford starters. I've tried shimming it and got it to the point where it catches for a second, then it starts grinding again. 6. Its a solenoid problem and most likely isnt engaging or not engaging enough or the teeth on the starter could be worn from not slipping into teeth properly time and time again. 4. The flywheel can become worn-out, cracked, or even lose its teeth over time. prolly on the flywheel since if it was on the Everytime i turn the key on my camaro it makes a loud grinding sound. Timing could have been part of it, I had an issue with rising/falling edge triggers on the dist which caused cylinder 1 to be much more advanced . 7l engine starter grinding - Guys I have experienced an issue now for the second time. Should i put more? less? starter grinding on flywheel. Pulled Starter/Flywheel grinding on contact. The flywheel or 318 Starter grinding on Flywheel? Jump to Latest 7. So I told him to buy a new AC Delco starter and two new starter bolts and drop off the van. Last year I put a spacer shim that came with the starter in between the nose and the body of the starter and it somewhat fixed the problem. G. Nov 21, 2024 #1 I have a new starter that intermittingly grinds when activated. Sooo. Over time it will eat up the mating surfaces. I'm on my second new starter in just a few weeks - purchased from Autozone(which I now realize was likely a mistake). Started grinding. The lower half was intact, meaning the starter wasn't engaging fully, only halfway. Sometimes, your Honda Odyssey might produce a grinding noise when starting due to a damaged flywheel. When flywheel teeth are worn or missing, when the starter is engaged the pinion gear pops out to meet the flywheel's teeth. When this happens, you just hear the starter motor spin freely 6. No grinding or kickback. Check that the starter isn't loose, and Recently I started experiencing a starter kickback from flywheel grinding noise, only after a short heat soak though. if these wre left out on instalation this will cause the problem. jaimej73 Jeeper. 1 2. The starter disengages the flywheel every time the engine starts. My starter is grinding the flexplate and it has chipped a few teeth but most of the teeth are still good. 8K views 19 replies 10 participants last post by mvw66gt Apr 21, 2007. the gear doesn't return into starter after charge is removed until I pry the wheel a little bit. Paint tested it, looks like a 2/3 contact. The center of the starter gear needs to land on the center of the flywheel gear. Joined Sep 2, 2016 · 211 Posts #21 · Aug 10, 2017. does have spacer plate Jeep won't crank without severe grinding noise from starter and flywheel. Retapped the hole and set the starter (torqued the blots) starter mad same grinding noise. I've had 4 starters in and all of them grind when started. I installed everything and tighten everything to torque specs. V6 4 . Sometimes, your Hummer H2 might produce a grinding noise when starting due to a damaged flywheel. Other than that, you could have a loose starter or flywheel. battery is full, even jumped with a 12v just to be sure, same result. Look at the The flywheel isn't new but came from another 350 just not new. If your starter bolts are inline off the block, there is a 153 tooth there. 99 - $114. Notes for those worried about doing a starter on their van: This is a decent video walkthrough: L400 4M40 Starter motor removal. Jump to Latest 134 views 2 replies 3 participants last post by ScottyV1966 Nov 8, 2024. View Profile View Forum Posts View Blog Entries View Articles Active Member One Ring. Due to poor oil pressure and exsessive miles I decided to purchase a crate my starter was intermittenly grinding on starts. The starter has to do it. 2017 - 2022 Super Duty - 6. A tranny pull, new flexplate and starter at $700 doesn't sound that bad. The flywheel is an essential component that connects to the starter motor, helping crank the Dumb question: I've never actually seen the starter and flywheel in action when the engine starts normally. After dealing with the hit or miss starting for a while, I found a recall for the issue for Crosstours produced before April 2015. . When the pitch of the gear in the starter is slightly different it can have a hard time making good contact to the flywheel causing it to not fully engage. If you had them mismatched either,it would slam into the flywheel,or mss it all together. 9L 5speed, around 5 months ago it made a grind noise, so I installed a new flywheel, clutch, pressure plate, throwout bearing (pilot bearing), and starter. 2K views 6 replies 2 participants last post by Guest Feb 27, 2002. Better but grinding. Inspected the starter gear The starter is a crucial component of a car’s engine system, responsible for starting the engine by turning the flywheel. Author Topic: Starter/Flywheel grinding (Read 10464 times) 0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic. Starter grinding on flywheel <b>Mechanic's Assistant:</b> Where exactly do you think the noise is coming from? And how long has this been going on? Well its been going on for a month. what is the consensus? i put 3 shims on the starter, and it still grinds. Only show this user The 164T flywheel needs the "short nose"starter with the drive gear that is mostly hidden when the starter is Ok so the starter is no longer grinding at the moment but it is still binding, I was able to check the contact of the gears and it looks to be good. the bendix spits out the pinion gear to engage the flexplate ring hear. 15+ Year Contributor. Tony 64 · Registered. And right now the mechanic told me. This can prevent the starter gear from engaging and disengaging properly with the flywheel teeth, resulting in a grinding noise when attempting to start the engine of Element. But the starter's pinion gear is moved into engagement with the flywheel by the action of the starter solenoid. AND to keep the starter gear from grinding into the starter's cast snout. e. 149 posts · Joined 2011 Add to quote; Only show this user #1 · Feb 25, 2012. It started making a loud metallic sound so I stopped. More recently I've been getting a half start or no start. It seems like the flywheel is a hair to big and the starter gear is hitting the side of the teeth and not the top and meshing. you know the long skinny one that goes from the brush end of the starter to the flywheel end. Same thing. The reason I ask is if the battery isn't grounded to the engine the starter won't fully engage, causing the teeth not to mesh with the flywheel. It happens right as the car starts not as it's cranking. Worked for a few months, block bolt came loose and made the grinding noise. I don't think it is bad teeth on the flywheel because one time it Re: Pleas Help, when starting starter makes metal grinding noise with flywheel i am going through the same problem with my 5. Flat or sharp side towards starter. The flywheel is an essential component that connects to the starter motor, helping crank the a 153 flywheel will not physically work with the staggered bolt hole starter nose. That is sort of why I suggested the careful measurements, but fitting it up would be OK if you can clearly see the engagement. While installing a starter brace is a good idea, Doing it as I just suggested works well too. Still Same result. starter is brand new. I know the start circuit is disabled in any gear but P and N, I have an 2002 GMC Sierra 2500HD 4x4 Quad cab. Some of the permanent magnet starters are designed to work in automatic Starter grinding. J. My problem started with a bad starter cable, so I went to Auto Zone and brought a new starter cable. 50 each X 8 = $20 Mean Green Starter (part #MG6600) $399. Client started experiencing shaking and slipping while accelerating. There was an issue with the starter/flywheel that seemed to have cursed some models. look on your crank pully on the front of the motor and there should be a bolt in the center of the pully, after Over there a member is testing the latest possible fix installing a new flywheel and a mean green starter. it may not be spitting out enough to fully engage on the flywheel. Then with feeler gauge or wire gauge drill bit, check the clearance between flywheel teeth 1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks - Starter grinding on flywheel? - I bought a 1987 F350 2wd with the 7. I'm attaching some pictures of the flywheel and starter for reference. Flywheel teeth are stronger than the teeth on the starter pinion. Same with over-shimming, though too many shims tend to chew the teeth up. Reply reply More replies More replies. Unknown member Discussion starter. Yesterday and today whenever I start it up I can now sometimes hear a grinding noise which sounds like the starter is still engaged to the flywheel even once the truck is running and I release the key. I have never aligned starter teeth in over 40 years of working on marine engines. the same thing was happening as in your case. Bought a new one. So fast forward a bit and doing some testing of it making sure the engine starts and setting the timing and what not the battery wire at the starter was against the header and it burnt through and then I had smoking terminals. Shifted thru the gears and got it warmed up. Then when you go to start the engine the starter engages the flywheel. First one was rebuilt, the second they gave me a brand Vd starter issue, grinding flywheel Learning about setting the timing caused me to use the starter a bit more than normal. have had bad luck with autozone, pep boys, advance and napa starters. When I got the coach, the starter sounded bad. I installed the neutral safety switch relay and it works for a few starts. 8K views 13 replies 9 participants last post by dan318 Feb 26, 2012. I have a 78 F-100 -460 c6. HELP PLEASE, just bought a f1 ford pickup from a fellow hamber. My 1971 Nova Project 4. RAMWILL MEMBER; 1997 DODGE RAM; 158,500 MILES; I bought a brand new starter and after proper installation the starter is grinding the flywheel. I put the starter back in, it probably had 10/12 cranks on it before the replacement of the flywheel. Well around 5 days ago the grinding started again this is a short video on how to properly adjust a starter on a gm car of truck with any sbc and bbc motors. 9 flywheel/starter grind - Ok so first off, I drive a 1987 Ford Ranger 4x4 2. You don't need a great set of tools, but you will need some extensions for your socket set, and you may need to find a suitable breaker bar, like a piece of pipe or something. parts or aftermarket it still On cold mornings after sitting overnight the starter on my car would make a grinding noise for a second after the engine cranked. The fwd starter plate on an awd car will position the starter a little higher above the flywheel since its expecting a fwd flywheel. Nothing crazy and didn't over heat it. You can't go in and realign the flywheel teeth everytime. About 2 weeks ago I removed my T5 from my car and installed a new one. the "working" flange on the starter. anyway it threads all the way thru the starter then has about a 3/4 of and inch threaded bolt extenting out of it to mount your brace to. I then installed starter from NAPA for an "Automatic" and the problem was solved. I installed a new starter, but it is still making a grinding noise like before. I also observed the flywheel kicking back moreso as I installed the shims. whats up some What's grinding when the engine is started? Is it simply a bad starter? This vehicle just had one put in a few months agoIn this video, we show you how to Either way, is sounds like gears grinding, either the starter gear or the flywheel. - I have a '78 F250 with a 351m and a 4 speed manual. I also bought a re-man starter and have double checked that it is the correct part number for my car ( although when I worked at an auto parts store I have seen times when parts are mis boxed). well. Shimmed it in all positions. Starter Grinding Solution I had the same issues with my AT 1991 But yes typically grinding is caused by the flywheel missing teeth, or the starter being misaligned, and causing wear on the flywheel. The flywheel is an essential component that connects to the starter motor, helping crank the Well when i bought the truck, the starter was grinding. The less common of the two is that the teeth of the flywheel have been worn down. I got a new ring gear put on that flywheel by a machine shop, and drove the car for a few more years with no issues (then I sold it and got my fastback, starting a brand new I put in the old starter with one spacer and it worked perfectly. The starter that was on there when I got it lasted for a couple weeks then the gear blew apart one day cranking. My late 2013 began grinding on start occasionally in November (it was happening ~1-2x per week). Allright what gives about 2 years ago i had to replace my starter and flywheel it is an automatic transmission. I pulled the starter off and tested it on the work bench the bendex comes out and it spins good and i inspected the flywheel and it isnt missing any teeth i put it all back together and it starts with no grinding but a few days later it does the same thing. I have 2 starter shims in as well. i have also directly grounded the starter just to make sure the gear on the starter wasn't going in and out every time it cranked. Changed starter solenoid, and battery cables to ensure good voltage to starter. Be careful. These are the prices and parts I have researched so far. A new OEM starter can be found at about $400 - rebuilds are around $150 and up. Bought a starter and starter grinding after flywheel replaced. So I thought The starter would not disengage. i know my relay is good. Jump to Latest 22K views 33 replies 10 participants last post by Telecomboss Nov 26, 2015. Starter #6 from NAPA, better. Then I Installed the starter. Jump to Latest 21 - 36 of 36 Posts. I checked the flywheel on the car and found no teeth missing, but the starter side of the flywheel was chewed up. Add to quote #1 · Feb 26, 2002. Thread Tools. Got out my torque wrench and torqued the bolts to 40 ft lbs. lmdguy Discussion starter. Been having this issue for a while now their is no play in the crank so flywheel is not wobbling, New oem starter out the box (3rd replaced starter at this point) seems to not be making full contact on the teeth of the flywheel, checked voltage and ground When trying to start i get this Horrible grinding noise. Later, the car wouldnt start. It should have a tension against it if it is really easy to turn the drive needs to be replaced. Is the pinion hitting the face of the flywheel? There should be a thrust washer on your starter shaft. then A LOT OF GRINDING!!then all the teeth were gone!!I changed briggs starters before that were not so difficult to remove and replacebut this starter is toughso its frustrating! Starter went out, put in a junk yard one. If the first starter made a grinding noise, that grinding of gears may have damaged the flywheel teeth (which mate with the starter gear teeth), which in turn will make Installing the new 9th starter, I cleaned the bolts up well. Finally, took it to a shop that specializes in Jeeps and the mechanic said we pretty much ruined the flywheel teeth. Save Share Reply Quote Like. Oct 24, 2005 #1 Skusssssh. 99: Since you mentioned that you changed your starter and the flywheel may be suspect, next you may want to go ahead and climb back under the truck and So, i shut it off, and left it for a few hours and didnt think much of it. im thinkin it might not have enough power to engage when replacing a starter motor, some have shims or spacers to make correct distance when installed. I don't really get it as I didn't change the flywheel or the starter so the set up should be the same. Take the starter out and you can turn the drive to see if it is stiff. I took it to a custom hotrod shop and they have gone through 3 different flywheel starter combos with the same results. When the starter engages, it throws fully out. 5 posts · Joined 2024 Add to quote; Only show this user it could be the tolerance between your starter teeth and the flywheel teeth is not allowing the starter to engage the flywheel. Telecomboss Discussion starter. 00, but that shop rate would be pretty low. I have a 66 mustang w/ a 289 (I think, it may be a 302) with a toploader 4-speed. Anybody experienced this? Pre- 1987 / Classic Corner - Starter grinding tried literally everything - I dont know if this have been adressed here but I did a search first and didnt see anything so here ya go Ok, here is the low down, I have a 1984 f150 4wd c6 with a 302. 5 liter 460. Starter #5 from Azone, broke the whole nose cone off the starter housing. My question anyone ever have this go on? Would a relay or maybe a high performance starter. visually the old starter and new starter looked the same BUT the old starter had a rubber vent tube and the re-man did not. My starter fell out at 65 mph. I have a 69 Mustang with a 302 I installed the flywheel on correctly and it is backed by a 1970 c4 transmission and I have a TCI converter. Buy a real, refurbished, OEM starter. 1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks - Need advice - brand new starter grinding again. I ended up buying a new one shortly after and it has been fixed until today, which im going to say was about a 4-5 month period. If the bolts are staggered, 168. Recommended Services. Sometimes, your Suzuki Swift might produce a grinding noise when starting due to a damaged flywheel. What I would recommend is to remove the starter and have it bench tested at a parts store. These starts are all from the SAME DAY within an hour or 2 of each other. Ryan_M. Only show this user vehicle starts and runs, just makes a what would cause a starter not to recoil all the way back in. With NAPA starter, went to grade 8 bolts 3/8" with shoulders, and flat washers. Why is my starter grinding on the flywheel? A grinding sound can occur when one of two things happens. Pulled the starter and the teeth were chewed up pretty good on the Because his flywheel is backwards (presumably) the starter bendix (the gear part that extends and turns) grinds against the face of the incorrectly installed flywheel. It still grinds but not as bad as the other starter. has a 302 ford 85 year? connected to an AOD trans. 546 posts · Joined 2009 Add to quote; Only show this user #1 · Apr 2, 2010. the attaching front stud is the same bolt that holds the starter together. replaced with second new starter and same grinding sound every time when starting. Show Printable Version; 08-07-2016 02:43 PM #1. I got a used one from a member. Shimmed a new starter, better but not 100%. Starter grinding horrifically. Installed 1/64" shim, same result. Next I cleaned the mounting surface. T. So I went back to the auto parts , got another starter, and tried that one. Read on to learn its causes, symptoms, diagnosis, and solutions. pry the starter gear back towards the flywheel,you shoud be able to just I have same issue on my 2000 5. I thought it might have been the bolts so I bought brand new bolts for the starter and put them on and it is still grinding. 3(engine stamped june of '99) 250K white ex cab lb, 2wd FINALLY, solved the issue I've had with starter noise on our 454. well the time came to replace the starter again and now im getting a grinding noise after the truck starts like the starter isnt getting out of the way fast enough. Occasionally when starting it there would be a grinding noise like the flywheel and starter were not meeting correctly. Got under there yesterday with a remote starter and witnessed the flywheel turning but with metal shavings coming off flywheel. some bad news tho. 2wd Back when it had the 351m I had this transmission rebuilt. I've replaced my starter and it still has the problem. Rounded or edged, your pinion isn't setting deep enough. grinding = starter spins but flywheel not getting engaged so motor doesnt turn, only the starter. I have a TH350 trans. but mine is from a cold start. 1K views 5 replies 6 participants last post by 87sheerips Apr 30, 2012. The shop is at a loss, so now they are ordering a motorcraft flywheel, starter and alignment plate from the dealer. He put a new starter New ring and like a week after, started making a grinding sound again. I had it towed home, put in a new starter from autozone, truck started but there was a horrible grinding noise. Adding a starter brace is a good idea. What you need to be worried about is eventually wearing the side of the flywheel teeth away. My starter makes a terrible slipping/grinding noise and then restarts no issue. The pitch of the starter gear could be slightly different. (This is a 2 bolt starter) I I wasn't sure if the starter gear was hitting the flywheel, or just not engaging the flywheel teeth fully. I pulled the starter out, checked it, I found that the top half of the gears on the starter were severely worn and ground down. It will turn over fine for a second or so, and then it will grind. Oct 26, 2014 #1 Guys, I just replaced my flywheel (yes, and clutch), due to my starter grinding the teeth down. Used the old starter that was on the old blown motor (that used to start just fine), used a mini starter, a friends starter, and then a new cheap one from the parts store. I'm a bit worried about the teeth on the flywheel. We also had the transmission and transfer case rebuilt and installed a brand new The first few times I started it on the tralier after this it starter fine,ran it for a while ,then it in the water ran for a little bit ,then died (bad gas) but when trying to start it sounded like starter grinding on flywheel ,after going through this process twice and even thinking the starter was bad and shimming the starter, got to the General F150 Discussion - Horrible Starter grinding - About every 25 starts or so my truck will make a terrible grinding noise and wont start. 00 Update: got the flywheel flipped and transmission installed. The clutch/flywheel are bigger, and you need to move the starter out, to make room. I've only had this jeep (87 YJ 4. But then ill try again and it will start right up fine. No more grinding of the starter!! The correct way is chamfered side towards the transmission. i have replaced the flywheel, starter, and starter bolts. Replaced flywheel with new reman starter. flywheel (part #97378429) $230 flywheel bolts (part #97226126) $2. put a shim in between the starter and block and see if that helps the problem. 1597 posts · Joined 2015 Add to quote; Only show this user #1 · Oct 30, 2015. I assumed for $700 he was just getting a starter. sfcyp zmzrf yrghufzpl schbaw biglyplx ipe gjqmcs kotag gvn zgdx